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Hi, Veronica. I'm so excited to dive in with you today. We've been in each other's world for around three years now. You've been part of the, what, She Who Leads community, even when it wasn't the She Who Leads community yet. And you were part of Two programs that I hosted and every time I saw you embody more of your fire, more courage, more vulnerability, more open in who you are here to be and become and to share your mission, your medicine.
And I feel so lucky that we now live in the same spot in the Bay area. So we get to also see each other in real life, dance together, meet new sisters together. and also as two projectors, I always from the start felt so connected with you, projectors in human design. I feel we're very similar in how we approach life and how we're here to guide others to their truth.
And how you do that is through the, the medicine of intimacy, vulnerability, eroticism. And I am so excited to learn more from you and to really dive into what fires you up. And also what you do to make sure you don't burn out, but that your fire keeps expanding and expanding. so in today's podcast, we'll really first focus on what is your medicine?
What is your fire? What is your why? And then we'll go into that. How do you actually make your fire, your life's work and what do you do for it to keep burning, even when it's sometimes goes down to the crackles? Right. That's okay. But how you keep trusting that the fire will come back for you to share your medicine. So why don't you first take a minute or so to share a little bit about yourself and your fire? What fires you up?
Thank you so much. I feel so excited and bubbly in my body. I'm so happy to be here with you. Yes. It's amazing. The, the nerves and the energy that still come through, like owning who I am in this, in this moment and day to day. I'm Veronica Funess and I'm a somatic intimacy guide, erotic empowerment coach, And I practice, coaching out here with individuals and couples, for all of their relationship challenges, especially related to intimacy, sexual shame. Yeah. And just finding confidence in all of those parts, holding their hands.
Yes. Yeah. You hold space for them to really tune into their vulnerability and to practice. How that feels if we actually become more vulnerable and share what is truly within.
Yes, I want to add to that. Hold space is always a funny term, actually, for the work I do, because, it's more of a sharing space and a relationship that we actually get into in a, in a practice lab, so to speak, relationship.
I love that. Yes.
I love to distinguish like, yes, at times there might be space holding or giving them opportunity to feel what they need to feel. And I'm not managing or inserting myself, overly, but there are ways in which we are in relationship and I do bring my self into it, in the service of their growth, in relationships and just self discovery.
So just a little caveat, a little. You know, asterisk. So your job is to also be vulnerable.
Exactly. And to show how you can be vulnerable together. And really co regulate that space together. Ooh, yes. I think what we're doing right now, it feels like, too. We're doing it now. Yes. Yeah. And we're definitely gonna jump into that later, is that yes, we have that fire, and at the same time, it probably will forever, there will forever be a part of us that is scared to live that and embody that.
So I'd love to dive into that with you, but first I want to talk a little bit more about the medicine that you bring. So, I know that you have the vulnerability to intimacy and eroticism. What are, why is that important for us to embody? Why is it important for us to explore that?
I just feel such a tenderness, because it feels like we're constantly in, in roles and relationships and going about our day disconnected from ourselves, disconnected from our desire, disconnected from our bodies, what brings us pleasure and often it's from shame. It's from cultural shame. Not always conscious to us as well.
You know, what, what what was passed down from families and generations and, what we see, what we're taught. And I know that I felt this way. I felt disconnected. I felt afraid to really own what I cared about, what, what I enjoyed, sensually or erotically felt. So shameful. So discovering that there is, there are ways in to back into returning to ourselves.
There are ways to connect with people and feel loved, and feel accepted and embraced. And what that does to you is you feel alive, you feel whole, you feel like you can show up in connection and relationships, less anxious, or at least have the resiliency in those anxious moments and just makes life more, more livable and fulfilling.
Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. And I love you bring the word resiliency up. Can you share a little bit more about that?
Resiliency, it's such, it's such a beautiful word. It's such a mouthful and like, yet also like slides off the tongue. And it, it, it, it, to me, you can feel that, that support and that comfort and that encouragement of, of what it is, is, despite your past, despite. Your struggles, despite what's going on with you, that is hard.
You, you feel able to, to move, to breathe to, to, to just take a little step in that direction, to, to reach out, to keep going. It's, it's hope. It's belief in yourself. It's belief in something bigger. Yeah. Yes. And very often we don't feel that resiliency. Because there's a layer of shame on top of it.
Do you feel that? Ooh. I can, yeah, just feel that, that layer, that shame, that kind of cloud. Yeah.
So how, in your experience with yourself and your own journey and with your clients, does practicing vulnerability and intimacy with others Support us to get to that next layer to kind of move through the shame, right, of the old stories, the nervous system patterns that get triggered, in relationships with others and with ourselves, and that then kind of pull this back from embodying our true self or true fire and being resilient about it. How have you experienced this that support us in moving through that
In so many ways. I feel so lucky that I have had that in so many ways, I'm
feeling into which to share, I guess I'll start with the biggest, the most. Thank Maybe two of the most powerful times was, when I, yeah, when I started really getting into my training for, sex and relationship coaching with somatica, I noticed I took the first training and then the second training, I still had not shared or come to terms or accepted and embraced.
My deepest shame around sexual desire. Can you, can you quickly share what Somatica is? Yes. The Somatica Institute is run by two amazing, just Genuine powerhouse, compassionate women, Celeste, Hirschman, Danielle, Harold, and they, created a method to work with individuals and couples on, challenges with sexuality or arousal or, anything related to the relationship.
And it's a model that. Helps you feel, you know, erotic wholeness, for yourself and also really instructs and helps you find like practical skills around, around sex. And it's the idea that intimacy is teachable skills related to intimacy are, are learnable through relating and being in relationship.
Awesome. Just for who doesn't know what it is. So feel free to go back to your story. Yes. So part of that training, there was a moment where I had the opportunity to, if I wanted to, you know, share this shame I had, within, amongst other loving people and other students. Going on to be coaches. And there was a moment where I shared it and, someone tried to comfort me with saying that it was completely, they were, they were doing a great job empathizing, but it wasn't until another person came in and really said like how hot my desires were, that I felt, fully.
Embraced and accepted and saw the power of like celebrating pleasure, as a way to bust shame. And it just. was like such a novel thing for me. Yes. I love that. I really feel that too. Yes. It's really other people projecting to you like, wow, central, bring it out. Right. And I'm like, Oh yeah. You know, not being I don't know how to say that really, but, like sexy, like, you know, but really like, Whoa, this life force energy you're bringing through your desire, through your movement, through your being, like, we want that, bring it on. And it was such a nice projection. Yeah. It's like, Oh, this is wanted. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Actually, what I hear from you is yeah, really succinctly, advocating for when people know how to cheerlead. Like know how to really cheerlead for you and empathize and more than empathize, but celebrate. That's so often the thing that, that really lands that you can really feel like, Oh, this is good.
I'm good. I'm what I want is good. I'm good. I'm loving. Yeah. You just really helped me and seeing that, Ooh, that's, that's why, why it's so important to explore these things with others. Right in safe slash brave spaces where we can really be seen right and it's so often with other people that see those little things in us, and they celebrate that.
That we see that, Oh, this is something special in me. Actually. Yes. This wants to come out. They didn't even maybe even realize that this was something that I'm here to embody that makes me. Right. And it's done through someone else projecting that to you is like, Oh yeah. Okay. Let's expand it. Let's experiment with that.
Feel how it is to embody that more. Oh, it's a little uncomfortable, but it feels so exciting. And then slowly as you practice with others, you embody that more and more. It's also what we, what, and I know you've experienced that too in the circles, right? Exactly what I was feeling as well was just seeing how in so many areas, what's truly gotten me forward and given me that resiliency is it's never, it's often never alone.
You can't do it alone. I don't think you can love yourself first. I think you actually need to feel what love feels like first from someone else. A message. Prop, like, you know, spoke about and I really feel into. Yeah. Yeah. Share more about that. I, because I remember you once said, it's like, cause it, because there's this story like, Ooh, you first have to love yourself before others can love you or something.
Yeah. And you were like, that's not true. Let's rewrite that story right now. Yes, let's rewrite it because, it adds, it just, I feel like it, we often, we might go into shame then if we're doing all that we can on our own and we still feel crappy, you know, and, Well, if you step back and look at it from like an attachment sort of lens or, looking at how children are raised, you know, we, we need to first learn how to do something, how to love ourselves, how to care, be compassionate.
We need to know that we are, lovable. If someone else believes in us and tells us we're lovable, we are inspired. We, we can let it, we can let it land in our system way more than our inner critic. Yes. I mean, it's hard to combat, right? Yeah. So then let's move from that lens back to the vulnerability and how we create spaces for vulnerability to, to thrive.
Yeah, that's That's a great, exploration. I mean, often, I know very early on, people would share with me that they just, they feel safe. And they feel like they won't be judged. So that gives them some courage to start to soften and open their heart or open up a little bit. But I think like vulnerability begets vulnerability.
Right. So, I, from, from me. Leading with that, sharing what I'm really feeling, sharing the messy, the imperfect, not altogether, and not trying to be something expert or something different, I think, can really change shape a vulnerable, brave space or container. So what does vulnerability mean? What are we actually doing?
What are we showing? What are we allowing to be seen?
Maybe the question is why is it so empowering to, to open up and share all of us, including our weakness and shadows?
There's just, there's so much good there. Yeah, I guess. What feels powerful or what vulnerability is, is.
Maybe it's, it's okay to still be afraid, but it is like revealing or showing what's true, knowing what's true inside, how you feel about someone, how you feel about a situation, hearing that you're afraid, sharing that you're scared, but it's, can be a tool for connection. Yeah. For deeper intimacy, going beyond the surface and also really helpful if there's challenge or, you know, ruptures right in relationship.
We can't just, we can go along skirting on the surface or ignoring or neglecting, but vulnerability says like, no, we're committed to truth and what's real for both of us. Yeah. Yeah. I love that so much. And it comes back in all your relationships, right? Not only with your partner, but also in friendships and sisterhood.
And that's really what I'm, you know, my work really connects also through the nervous system and realizing that our nervous system has certain patterns that When we re reenact them makes us feel safe, even when they don't serve us. And now I really recently experienced that. And this is really what started happening in the Bay Area.
I met these incredible people who are just so, brave in sharing what they truly feel when they're around me. They truly feel when they see me. Right. So you do that. And just recently, another friend, new friend, she saw me and she's like, you're like a new person. Right. And she just started saying, I just love you.
I love you. And then to receive that, right. I come from the Netherlands. We really, I didn't grow up saying, I love you to each other. I even thought, are those Americans always like saying, love you? I love you, but makes it mean nothing. But now it's, but now I experienced it too. One with, with my partner, I had to really learn saying that a lot.
And, and through words, really creating that intimacy. It's just like, little connection back and forth. Right. Like deeper connections. Like, I appreciate you. I love you. Yes. And then receiving that from friends, you know, or what I said earlier that they're like, Oh yeah. When on the dance floor, people are like, how are you moving?
Yes. More, more, more. And it's so, so beautiful to fully receive that. So when I'm saying that, what comes up is like, Oh, the intimacy is so about showing a little bit of yourself. Right? And then, the intimacy gets created with someone else. And then they respond to it. You're like, yes, more. And you just get to experience how it is to be yourself in your full expression, fullest expression.
And fullest expression is living your fire. I really got that experience of fireworks, like, you know, and, and yeah, the, the courage and the bravery and the, the beautiful sparks that happen back and forth between people, but it needs to be, you know, it's an act of giving and receiving and yeah, it's so vulnerable.
I mean, I still feel that in new spaces, new community with women, with sisters, like, Can I really, can I really show you this? Yeah. Can I really do this? Can I really dance this way? Can I really move this way? Can I really save it? Yeah. And then, and that's the, and then the receiving part, can I really receive this?
I love you. Oh God. Yeah. Can I take this in? You do? I don't know. Wow. What happens if I do? Can I take that? When my friend said that, just out of the blue, I was like, Oh, like my nervous system was like, I'm not used to this. Is this safe? Right? Even though it's so empowering. It's so great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I love hearing your, your journey with that, that you have that too, because I often am like, I, it's so good to remember.
Oh yeah, I'm not the only one that has a hard time taking that in. And my edge is often like, It's vulnerable. My vulnerability, at least on my trajectory of like vulnerability, I'll say, Oh, I just don't know if I, I want to take that in, but I, I don't know if I can receive that, but I really want to take it in.
Like, sometimes that's, that's as deep as it can go, but that's still being vulnerable in where you're at. Right. That's your edge right now. And that's okay. Now you know your edge. So now let's practice moving that edge a little bit further away. Yeah. Yes. And expanding your intimacy comfort zone. Exactly.
Exactly. That's, that's so the experiment here in the Bay Area, I feel like. It's so true. It is so true. It happens here. Yes. Okay. So I love to move the conversation to the eroticism side. What gifts are here? What gifts are in eroticism? What have you found? What are you like? I wish everyone knew this.
The, the gifts of eroticism. I mean, something that's really been amazing for me is just finding how much how energizing pleasure is, how energizing turn on is, I mean that my partner and I joke, we call it, we call, we have an, a concept called the erotic diet because truly when you're like juiced up on your turn on, whatever that looks like, you know, whatever sparks you, either sensually or because of fantasy or psychologically, you know, there, You truly go into like, you're full.
You're, you're, you're not starved. You're, you're full. You're full of energy. You're full of life. People want to, people see it and they're like, Ooh, like they want to be around you. They want to like, you're oozing this juice. It could be You're truly, you know, like, you know, having a sexual response, but it's often not, it's often more just like an elevated sense of ease and joy, and connected to your power.
Yeah, I love that. It's what I'm hearing is really, you're connected to your true desire. Right. Right. Because very often we're. We're taught to not be in contact with our true desire, what we really want, and maybe even need to feel like our best, most expressed, authentic, empowered self, right? Our needs and our desires and fulfilling those, owning those, and then fulfilling those can really bring us to who we truly are.
That we're not owning like, oh, I desire to To try that like I need to give myself is right it actually is just like, and the feeling of turn on. That's kind of what you're following, I feel, yes, and it could be sexually it could also be. How I found this necklace, like this necklace, just, oh yeah, it turns me on, right?
Or, or business opportunity, I know very well doesn't turn me on. Not doing that or that. Yes. Enlightens me, opens me, right? It turns me on. It feels juicy. I love that word. And once you follow more and allow yourself to, to feel, Ooh, yeah. Turn on, right, which might not equal what our mind thinks is safety, right?
Very often desire and turn on is something that our body is new. So our body doesn't feel that, Ooh, that's safe. So that's really where, where we got to regulate our nerves and support our nervous system so we can own so and bring us to our next level. And eroticism also for me, really, I don't know, maybe for you too, but, I think Esther Perel once said something like that. She was that Eros is so often misunderstood as being, having something to do with sex, but, and it actually means life force energy. So for us allowing to chase, invite, receive Eros, right.
From life. What's that going to do to us? It's going to lift us up, light us up, the fire, right? So I would love to know from you. So when you started to really invite that in, what happened to you? What happened to your fire? How did you start to own it and embody it? Yes. Oh gosh, it's. I feel it now. You know, I just I'm being reminded of it right now.
Sharing, sharing my, my voice, my message, my it's like, it feels so good. My body all the way down. The, I just wanted to echo to what you were saying, though, that, like, Oh, gosh, I need to go back on track. I think, could you ask, ask that again? I think I'm just, there's so much here. Yes. How did you really allowing eroticism to come into your body, into your life, right?
Embodying it. Owning your desire, knowing your desire, following your desire sexually and in other areas of life. How did that support you and embody your fire to live it and to share it? Okay. Gorgeous. Yes, I think it starts probably when I was back, you know, I, Over a year and a half ago when I was in Brooklyn, and just realizing kind of this feeling of like, Oh, I'm going to need a bigger boat.
Like, I'm gonna like, if I'm, if I have this much just power in me and, and thirst. I'm going to need to go somewhere that can give me that nourishment, and those. Opportunities. So I moved to the bay and like you said, with your nervous system, there were, there's so many times where I, where my nervous system contracted and I was like feeling like I had to start over from square one in terms of my, the big powerful person I, I feel.
But, the nervous system was scared, like, Oh, wow, there's a lot of big, powerful people here, like living their fire and, you know, like, but, but being able to then put myself out here in terms of work, like, working with lots of different individuals and attending different
events and workshops and festivals that are so fascinating and about the body and, connection and intimacy have just really allowed me to keep owning who I am. Yes, context, environment is key. Yeah, having people around us who kind of believe in us so much and keep believing in us and our dreams so much until we do too, right?
It's key. We're social animals. We're here to belong and we're going to try subconsciously to belong to whoever is around us, even when those people don't kind of benefit from us staying the same. So you going out there, going into environments where you're probably challenged, you're probably triggered.
And you're expanded through that, right? But you really allowing yourself to sit with those triggers to move through the discomfort. You reach a next level and then a next level of expression and the next level of owning your fire. And that's really where, where the co regulation comes in, right? It's, we will subconsciously always Adjust to who's around us and when there's people around us who really intentionally try to make us feel safe in who we are and who we are becoming and love us for that, right?
There's no, no, in, in our communities. I don't, and who I have in my life and you too, it's very similar. There's no, there's no competition. Oh, you're doing that fire. I want to do that too. The life you're living. I want that too, right? Because then subconsciously, they will, the energy will come back, come back to where we were.
I want to keep you here, right here. I feel there's people is like, is there your fire? I love seeing you live it. How can you expand it? How can I support you in expanding it? Because this is you living your fire is you bringing your kind of medicine to the world. It's you living your purpose. And that's really what, what the Bay Area definitely feels a lot, but we experienced it too in our online community.
Yeah. There's so many people that, yes, and it's no wonder it's kind of a side note that many women who join our community, who join one of one of our circles and programs, they experience a sense of intimacy and deep connection. That they're like, wow, why can't I, why can't I explore this with my friends, my community here?
Why don't I feel this kind of support and encouragement from a true love in a way from the people in my life. And it happened a few times that women started to, in the, in the community started to set higher standards for themselves, know what they need and desire to get to where they want to go and to become who they're here to become.
And that they totally shifted their friendship groups. It happened a few times, and others really went into their friendship groups and started to be the fire starter for their friends, right? And they started to show like, wow, there's a different level of connection of intimacy of feeling alive. Let's go.
I'm going to bring you here. And that happened a few times too. And that's really where environment is so key. Make sure you hang out. And invite the right people in your life who lift you up just as you lift them up right where there's kind of an expansive energy. Yeah, and I love all that you're saying and it feels very resonant for me and my journey and, just to just, I just want to add that you know it's not again it's not necessarily as easy as.
Like, I don't want to make it seem like it's an easy journey by any means. And, it's probably the hardest journey you will ever go on. It's not done. It's like, I don't know if it'll ever be right. We don't know. Because we're just, we're, we're constantly evolving and, and yeah, becoming who we want to be.
And it's so rewarding at the same time. So, I wouldn't trade it at all. You know, it's like, I can't believe the growth and what I'm learning and discovering and opening to. I much prefer, prefer this to, you know. Keeping myself compressed and small. Yeah. And that costs way more. Right? It's way more painful than being temporarily uncomfortable to get to where you want to go.
Exactly. And understanding that it's just your nervous system acting out because it gets very, very stressed with anything new, anything a little bit expensive. And once you know that and have people like yourself in your life, right, to support you through that expansion, you'll get there. Everyone has that in them.
I really trust that. So I feel we already touched upon one thing that really supports you in keeping your fire alive, and have it expand instead of burnout. But there's one other way I know, and I know that because you really taught me that, is the energy of play. And giving play, bringing play in your life.
Maybe you could share a little bit about that and also connect that to intimacy or vulnerability. Or even eroticism. Yeah. Yeah. Play is so huge. It's just such a lost, it's like a lost, I won't say art because that, that's not the point. But it's like a loss. We did forget about it. Very often when we get to adulthood, play doesn't fit that model.
Yeah. Yeah. It's it's been so so freeing and and healing to find or to invite or to be invited into play. I, I, I've really seen it in going to, you know, like ecstatic dance or, authentic movement, like different movement practices where you get to let go of, how you look in your body. Yeah. And just be what what's with what's what wants to come out.
They're like primal kind of animal play. I do with clients a lot to disinhibit, help them disinhibit and, and come forward with their desire. You can kind of regress and, and be like childlike and, I've been like drawing and painting lately and that feels so. I used to think I was not a good artist.
And so to feel like it doesn't matter and I can just create and, And have a good time and, and it's so funny. I'm experiencing the same with painting and my perfection is me hates it. Yeah, exactly. Why I'm doing it, right? Yes. It's so, it's so amazing. Just to paint, just to paint, come up, whatever it wants to come out.
Like no mistakes, no mistakes. Yes. Oh, I love that so much. And that really is the play, right? It's about the act. Yeah. And being just present and being present, letting yourself look silly until it and letting it be uncomfortable until it isn't like awkward and weird. And that you're like, Oh, I'm going to like, I'm going to say the wrong thing, you know?
And then, yeah, I did a lot of that actually when I was, doing just practice coaching sessions with my. With my now partner, like a lot of it was just, can I just be relaxed in connection and play and, and just drop any effort and just drop who I, who, like who I'm supposed to be. And in that resting place, it's actually an attachment tool, but just it, it is play.
And it's just resting in that place in connection, doing nothing, doing nothing. Brings you into a different consciousness and you're just. Your heart, you feel melted and softer and giggles might come out and it's beautiful. Yeah. So it's rest. It's play and rest. Rest and play. They go together. Right. Right.
It's a, yeah, it's a form of active resting. Yes. Yes. And with play too, is that it really supports going back to the nervous system. It really supports us in an active, having an activated nervous system that is actually dysregulated, but in a way that it's, we control it in a way. So it makes us feel more safe and feeling, uncomfortable.
I didn't know that. And that makes so much sense as to why it is such a. It is a regulator, but it is activating. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Beautiful. Love it. So Veronica, what can, you know, for amazing listeners that are like, Oh, this is so inspiring. I want to live my fire too. What can I do? Or I have an idea of my fire is, and I want to see how I can expand it.
What would be your one thing that you would tell them? Try this. Try that.
I would say that first, know that even if your hobby or fire feels Uncommon or untraditional like I was only I was like, I have no hobbies, but the truth is they were around sex and intimacy and consciousness and I just didn't know that those were those weren't I didn't know those were things that legitimize because they're often not in our culture or they're shamed.
So if you have hobby or interest or fire or passion that, that just tickles you and you feel a little whisper about it, like, and if you can't validate that for yourself, find just one person or just one group, one, one outlet, one training, one class, one workshop, one city, you know, one, one neighbor, whatever that you can, that you feel safe enough to show up.
And try it out. Yeah. Explore. Yeah. I think that if you take that leap, like no one's gonna tell you to take the leap, but if you take it, there will be people eventually on the other side with their, there with you. Yes, that's so true. Yes. So find your where, where are you turned on and find that person or that community for you to see how that if you embody that desire, how that feels like and looks like.
And then know if you keep following the nudges, the desires. Your people are already waiting for you. They're already there. They're already here to be your soul people. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Veronica bringing on all the wisdom drops. I just, yeah, it's so, and it's so tied to the work that we've done. I just feel it too.
I feel confused. It is. And that's the cool thing. Like when you really live your fire, you find other people living complimentary fires. And we just are each other's fire starters. And even when sometimes, you know, we go a little bit to the crackles, like you said, in a pre interview, like there are going to be times that your fire is not full force, right?
And that means that there's a next level waiting for you after. So when you're, there's just crackles, there's something for you to explore, right? A challenge for you to turn into an opportunity for further growth. Yes. I know that that's totally okay to rest here for a little bit. Give yourself what you need and you will move to the next, to the next expansion.
Yes. Taking care of your body and then just maybe finding one person that can remind you of that. Yeah. So have your people. You can return to that connection. Yes. Thank you so much, Marit. Thank you. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for allowing all of us, all of us to receive you in your full force fire. I'm feeling it today.
And just from my side, it's been so incredible to see you really, honestly, such a short time expanding from you know, you came in the first circle of like, okay, I think this is my fire. It feels still uncomfortable. I have a lot of shame around it. And then to starting to own it, expanding to follow the nudges, move to the Bay area, do that training, not really knowing where it's gonna go, but you knew that if you followed the nudges, you would go there felt uncomfortable the whole time.
And at the same time, so exciting and expensive. Right. And that's really what. I loved, witnessing your journey and I'm so excited to see where you are in a year, in five years, in 10 years. It's going to be freaking amazing. I have no doubt. And I'm going to be here with you and all our community the whole way.
I know you'll be for us too.
Taking a moment and receiving that. That is just the cherry on top. The whole cake. All the cake. Alright, you go out into the world and eat up that cake. Share the cake. I'll give you a slice.
Yes, I would love one. Amazing. Thank you so much for sharing your fire with us, Veronica. I love you so much.
I love you so much Marit. This is such a (inaudible)
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